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This week TheCarGuys take the new Ferrari 488 GTB and test it versus Damian’s long-term 458 Italia. Which is the better in terms of performance, noise, exterior looks, quality of interior and long-term ownership and value?
Many of you have asked whether it’s worth upgrading from a 430 to a 458, or whether it’s worth saving up for the new 488 instead of going for a used 458. Hopefully this video will answer many of your questions. But if you have more, don’t hesitate to leave comments on this video, or hit us up on Instagram.
* Note - performance figures quoted in the Top Trumps section of this video are based on TheCarGuys’ own cars and are not necessary those of Ferrari or any other organisation. It is also worth noting that we are comparing a 15k mile 458 Italiaversus an 800-mile 488 GTB. Neither cars have been modified in any way.
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TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Il y a an
SO WHAT SMASHED THE WINDOW?. We reckon it was a stone flicked up by the passing green Land Rover. Gravel driveways often get stuck between the tread of the tyres on big SUVs, and then are flung out when they accelerate on tarmac roads.
Waweru N. Gatimu
Waweru N. Gatimu Il y a 23 jours
TheCarGuys.TV wow! That rock smashed the window!
Dr.Schmit
Dr.Schmit Il y a 24 jours
TheCarGuys.TV The main significant difference between 458 and 488
iG W
iG W Il y a 26 jours
@Streetwearjoey exactly
iG W
iG W Il y a 26 jours
I think it was on purpose.. probably you guys drove several times the same place and some jealous green activist from that passing truck threw a rock at you.. wouldn't be surprised..happy nothing happened and you just turned your head, otherwise some glass could have reached your eyes maybe
sunder shanmugam
sunder shanmugam Il y a 2 mois
@HahaHahaHaha agree
Stacy boulderdash
Stacy boulderdash Il y a 4 heures
Naturally aspirated will be less repairs and wear on the turbo engine in 488. I chose 458.😉
L C
L C Il y a 6 heures
Had both, two 458’s, one spider one Italia. Had one 488gtb, about to collect a 488 spider. You cannot compare the two realistically. The 488 in performance, style is better in every way. It looks more aggressive the 488 is hugely faster, these guys are talking absolute rubbish. Getting out of the 458 and into a 488 feels like a 10 year time warp. The 0-60 is breathtakingly scary in the 488 at every foot slam - 458 not so. The subjective noise is another point that everyone has jumped on following like sheep. The 488 sounds very deep and Ferrari spent huge amounts on making it sound that way. The turbo gives a kick in your back. The 458 may have a few pretty design areas that appeal. I’ve lived with both for 4 years. 488 all the way, there is no comparison despite living my previous 458 spider. If you sit both together, test drive both, come up with 458 as the being best...you cannot afford a 488 or have a 458 and haven’t gotten your head around upgrading.
Connected Body
Connected Body Il y a 4 jours
I’d go for the 488
Bubba Cee
Bubba Cee Il y a 6 jours
Thank you for the review !! I will have to go with the 458 then !! thank you so much!!
Kurt Kaster
Kurt Kaster Il y a 8 jours
Finally, the perfect car comparison video!! Not referring to the viewers as "guys" every 2 seconds, not doing burnouts and tunnel pulls, just giving the info in a perfectly digestible way. Thank you!!! I have to say though, it didn't help me decide , how can one choose between these 2 masterpieces?
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Il y a 7 jours
Thanks, Kurt
Georgina Thompson
Georgina Thompson Il y a 10 jours
I sold my 458 for a 488 and now regretting it.
Ian Nadeau
Ian Nadeau Il y a 11 jours
I’m here cause of Tory Lanez
Mickael Hanssens
Mickael Hanssens Il y a 17 jours
There is a difference in 0-60: 458 3.4 488 3.0.
trevor james bradley
trevor james bradley Il y a 20 jours
I’ve driven both in Italy while on vacation in Maranello for the day. The 458 felt more “go-cartish” and more raw while the 488 felt more part of you, techie if that makes sense. Loved both.
JHart Modelworks
JHart Modelworks Il y a 22 jours
458 every time.
Dr.Schmit
Dr.Schmit Il y a 24 jours
The main significant difference between 458 and 488
Giovanni De Cesare
Giovanni De Cesare Il y a 25 jours
458 for ever
Bob Dobalina
Bob Dobalina Il y a 26 jours
The 458 is the prettiest car ever made, the 488 looks like a Hot Wheels car. I'm normally a Porsche person but I fell in love with the 458 the moment I saw it.
jaybee barro
jaybee barro Il y a 26 jours
i think the 488 size makes it unattractive its pretty huge
Government IS Slavery
Government IS Slavery Il y a 27 jours
Naturally aspirated, 458 wins on engine reliability, responsiveness, and sound. Add better looks and it's no contest... 458 hands down.
Saptarshi Das
Saptarshi Das Il y a mois
18:48 -- WINDOW SMASH.🥂
Saptarshi Das
Saptarshi Das Il y a mois
Bored during quarantine! Might wanna try the hard way yeah? Too much time! ✌️
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Il y a mois
Saptarshi Das You know it’s right at the start too, yeah?
D Wnright
D Wnright Il y a mois
Not much in it for me except price. I have driven both. 488 definitely the better car, but not by much.
Erebus
Erebus Il y a mois
458.
Alexander Pappas
Alexander Pappas Il y a mois
I just bought an Oyster Card, I get a train and it comes with a chauffeur.
Home Lackin
Home Lackin Il y a mois
488 just bc its a better performer
Henry Zhang
Henry Zhang Il y a mois
488 for sure, 458 is almost as perfect but it's just a bit old in every way.
Easy Eagle
Easy Eagle Il y a mois
Glad no one was hurt when the window broke!
Charlie Carol
Charlie Carol Il y a mois
f430>458>488 imo
Julio Cesar Mayo Chavez
458 all the way
Principles Values
Principles Values Il y a mois
I have a new 812 superfast Blue Electrico, but I am looking for a spider, and 458 spider comes to mind, is the driving feel of 458 spider or coupe more agile more grounded and pointy than 812? also, one more thing 812 is very busy and bouncy comparing to Portofino or Lusso, so is 458 bouncy as well or is it smoother than 812 you would say, you are the expert so your advice would be much appreciated on my two questions, thank you again for your time and help
mr. 1.0
mr. 1.0 Il y a mois
thats so weird i love the front of the 458 but the back of the 488
Kelvin Hamilton
Kelvin Hamilton Il y a mois
That vehicle you passed did it. A jealous, envious character I am afraid
Mark Summers
Mark Summers Il y a mois
Like videos but please watch the blasphemies bro!
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Il y a mois
Mark Summers Apologies, but that’s part of who we are and we do bleep out the majority.
crxdelsolsir
crxdelsolsir Il y a mois
458 = no turbo to break, no turbo lag, better reliability having no turbo, linear feel, historic engine being last NA, still looks 90% the same as the 488.
SDPM ALMEIDA
SDPM ALMEIDA Il y a mois
Quebrou só o vidro, que sorte rsrs
Emile Raoux
Emile Raoux Il y a mois
I love those cars but your video is quite subjective. I personnaly prefer the design of the 488 and that is only my opinion. For the performance, the 488 has a better 0-100km/h (3sec against 3.3 and the 488 even beats the speciale on a drag race..) a better top speed (325 km/h for 458 and 330km/h for 488) and the aero of the 488 is produicing 50 per cent more down force than the 458, so i agree with you the value of the 458 will really increase compared to the 488 but try just to be more objective and precise when you are talking about specs and performances because it feels like from the beginig to the end of the video the 458 is the absolut winner. But nice video and it's really cool to compare those two incredible cars 👍
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Il y a 16 jours
Tim H Personally I’ve found both my 458s perfectly reliable. The 458 over the 430 is a whole different ball game - it’s better in every way
Tim H
Tim H Il y a 17 jours
@TheCarGuys.TV Hi there, how do you find the reliability with the 458? was considering buying a F430 but seen one or two nightmarish videos relating to clutches, cracked manifolds and ball joints on them and read that other than the early 2010 cars (458) had a few transmissions troubles they are much better.
Emile Raoux
Emile Raoux Il y a mois
@TheCarGuys.TV ok so i think you are in a better position to talk about these cars but i still prefer the 488 ahah 😉
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Il y a mois
Emile Raoux Thanks for watching, Emile. You’re quite right it is very subjective, but remember, I owned both cars - they weren’t borrowed, so it is my personal opinion based on ownership.
RafaelCeottoOfficial
what the hell happened at the beggining??????
Frank Sala
Frank Sala Il y a mois
Your evaluation of the 458 & 488 is spot on . As a original owner of a 2013 458 spyder I always purchased the next new model change and I must say 488 is a perfect car but it's missing one major thing that Enzo Ferrari always said the soul of a Ferrari is it's Engine and the Ferrari 458 is hands down the winner plus you left one major thing out it's the last designed Ferrari by Pininfarina . For me the Ferrari 458 will go down as the best modern classic Ferrari ever . Buy one now before they appreciate alot faster then a 488 . Thank you for a perfect Review of both cars .
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Il y a mois
Cheers, Frank - glad you liked it
Goody
Goody Il y a mois
I love the debate of which goes faster over 200mph...really makes a difference between 205 and 206mph for 99.9% of Ferrari owners.
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Il y a mois
I know it’s meaningless
Randy Marsh
Randy Marsh Il y a mois
458 will be a modern classic as it's N/A
Nich Hodge
Nich Hodge Il y a mois
I like them both and prefer it it’s predecessor the F430 which I bought (2nd hand with 8300 miles on the clock) when I was 23-24. I loved the F430 at the time and preferred it to the 360. But when the F458 Italia came out I thought it just looked so much better than F430 though you could see it was the next stage of evolution of the F430. Like how you can see how a Neanderthal man looks similar to a modern man despite the massive upgrades in every way, the same can be said about the F430-F459-F488
Nich Hodge
Nich Hodge Il y a mois
The glass smashing made me laugh at the beginning because I didn’t read all the title of the video so it caught me by surprise. But which to buy the 458 or 488? Buy the one where the driver’s window doesn’t smash while driving along
Jammi V
Jammi V Il y a mois
Anything that sounds like the 458 has my vote. The 488 sounds great but I love the non turbo wail of the 458.
Dr.Schmit
Dr.Schmit Il y a 24 jours
Jammi V The main significant difference between 458 and 488
Jammi V
Jammi V Il y a mois
I’ll take any of the 8’s. I only have the breakfast I “8”.
Home Lackin
Home Lackin Il y a mois
@Jammi V oh haha i get it now, i breezed over the breakfast part haha
Jammi V
Jammi V Il y a mois
@Home Lackin I wish! It was an attempt at a joke - I ate, I 8, get it?
Home Lackin
Home Lackin Il y a mois
You have an i8?
mondo odnom
mondo odnom Il y a mois
Thing is, IMO, its looks and appearance where Ferarri score a few points above very other super/hyper car, and the 488 does not match the 458 at all. ill go as far to say its a disappointment.
mondo odnom
mondo odnom Il y a mois
458, the 488 doesn't do it for me
S S
S S Il y a mois
I drove both on a racetrack pretty hard. 458 by a mile.
27suzukirider
27suzukirider Il y a mois
WTF are these two curtain jerkers talking about?!!? Yes the 458 sounds nicer! and it might even look nicer too.... but the 488 is faster!! hell the 488 is even faster then the Special!! every single drag race i have ever seen between these 2 cars the 488 has WON. This is the most fair closest race i could find on the internet!! and the 488 still WON!! Here is the PROOF like it or not. frvid.com/video/vid%C3%A9o-oAbZuAFjXr8.html
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Il y a mois
Speed isn’t everything...
John Roth
John Roth Il y a mois
Great vid. You convinced me - it's the 458 for me.
IYIZ Jewels Isley
IYIZ Jewels Isley Il y a mois
great vid and i'm a lambo guy!
Eamon Yap
Eamon Yap Il y a mois
Aventador went in ... Lambo: seems to be impressive Ferrari : .....
Beard Mechanix
Beard Mechanix Il y a mois
That “something” looks like it was thrown from the vehicle passing you on the other side
Liew Aik Seng
Liew Aik Seng Il y a mois
I will go for 458!
James Healey
James Healey Il y a 2 mois
812 Superfast.. Just because NA V12 is better than any flat plane crank V8, as much as I love the idea of the mid engined V8 Ferrari's the V12 is what really interests me. Unless it's an F40 then I just want the F40 above all things that exist on planet earth. Why did you sell the F40? WHHHHHHHHHHHHHHY!?
Jonathan Gould
Jonathan Gould Il y a 2 mois
With the £50k minimum I’d save buying the 458 I could go and buy a few more lovely cars to have in my collection....mmmmmwhat would you buy with £50-70k? A few nice performance driver cars or maybe something big n comfy? 12-13 plate Mulsanne maybe?
Jonathan Nikpour
Jonathan Nikpour Il y a 2 mois
458 All day long for me.
Rosen Petkov
Rosen Petkov Il y a 2 mois
At 00:03 you can clearly see a whiteish stone about an inch in diameter. It's hard to imagine a tire flicking it with a force and trajectory such as to break the window.
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Il y a 2 mois
Yet it did
john Bojanovic
john Bojanovic Il y a 2 mois
Agree 458 keys are better
Vasilios Sotiropoulos
Vasilios Sotiropoulos Il y a 2 mois
Everything about the 458 is perfect except for the stupid central aircon vents
Alex Mannings
Alex Mannings Il y a 2 mois
I will always love the 458! It will definitely be my first super car 💯
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Il y a 2 mois
Good for you
razis henry
razis henry Il y a 2 mois
Is that 5711?
Joe Perrone
Joe Perrone Il y a 2 mois
That 488 is stunningly beautiful.....Wow!
Chris Peytier
Chris Peytier Il y a 2 mois
I think over Time, thé Italia will take a much higher value, being the l'astuce atmo engines. We just miss the manual transmission for it to become a car of legend...
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Il y a 2 mois
We agree
23Piccolina
23Piccolina Il y a 2 mois
What I can't grasp is why Ferrari stopped using Pininfarina to design their cars? The 458 is the way better looking one. The 488 was designed in-house. No thanks Ferrari. Go back to Pininfarina.
Choco Latte
Choco Latte Il y a 2 mois
That’s a tough one. For me, I would go with the NA 458. The last of the line probably.
Fa Tee
Fa Tee Il y a 3 mois
So many people dreaming. I'm just here doing research before I buy. #2023
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Il y a 2 mois
Never stop dreaming :)
THE VATICANTS
THE VATICANTS Il y a 3 mois
Great job, guys. I finally picked up my 458 Spider 3 days ago. I posted my thread on Ferrarichat explaining why I picked it over the 488. I spent 2 weeks going back and forth and realized the 458 won in every category for me, personally. I owned 355 and 360 before and this truly always was and still is my dream car. Hit me up if y'all ever in Los Angeles! Here's the thread if you wanna read my posts: www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/bought-458-over-488-and-responding-to-answers-as-to-why.617405/
THE VATICANTS
THE VATICANTS Il y a 3 mois
TheCarGuys.TV thank you, bud ;)
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Il y a 3 mois
Yes read it - can’t fault your logic. Hope you enjoy it
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Il y a 3 mois
Awesome, will read
kakitkam
kakitkam Il y a 3 mois
we all know the 488 is faster stronger but I'd still choose 458 because of its engine sound.
El Singon
El Singon Il y a 3 mois
458.. that N/A v8 is a masterpiece.. the end of a legacy 🙁
Para Bellum
Para Bellum Il y a 3 mois
Please remove this video because I need so save for about 10 years and I don't want the 458 to appreciate too much.
Yaseen Ali
Yaseen Ali Il y a 3 mois
458 over 488
J E FRUSCIONE
J E FRUSCIONE Il y a 3 mois
The comment they make about a 458 being faster than a 488 at top speed is false...top speed on a 488 is 206mph, top speed on a 458 is 202 mph...I like you guys but power-to-weight ratios don't lie.
J C
J C Il y a 4 mois
Ferrari de-tuned the 488 on purpose is not to devalued the 458 current owner ....smart moves on their parts...
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Il y a 4 mois
Calling horseshit on that one...
John Kelly
John Kelly Il y a 4 mois
I will keep my F458
Vincent T.
Vincent T. Il y a 4 mois
I can't believe you guys think the 458 looks better than the 488. Ok you're right that the 458 is a better car all around in terms of performance and interior but the exterior of that 488 is absolutely stunning! The rear side air vents make it so exotic looking while the 458 is so plain jane looking.
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Il y a 4 mois
You are wrong :)
Ricardo Du Bignon
Ricardo Du Bignon Il y a 4 mois
Fantastic balanced review chaps, I bought a red 458 Italia 2013 plate with 5500 miles.. mint condition ..what fun, thank you for your review, i did look at the 488, but agreed with you, £25000 price gap, even with a newer car, I still went with the older naturally aspirated 458. Feels like I am driving it, not the turbo and electrics of the 488. Loved the mod cons in the 488, but na, had to get the honest last Ferrari.
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Il y a 4 mois
You are living the dream. I salute you, Ricardo
onkouth
onkouth Il y a 4 mois
A lorry passed you in the opposite direction just as the window smashed, hmmm the plot thickens! Edit, it may have been a disgruntled farmer in a Landy, the plot thickens even further!
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Il y a 4 mois
Indeed
Triode 12
Triode 12 Il y a 4 mois
The Alloy wheels on both aren't very good looking.
James Garrett
James Garrett Il y a 4 mois
"Shall we have some beanage" How British...Love it
Charlie Jones
Charlie Jones Il y a 4 mois
Guys... the 488 guts the 458 to 100 mph and the 1/4mi and look at the 0 to 150 mph times? That's where that extra 100hp and torque comes in. Looks wise? You need two in the same spec to see them for what they are imo.
Scisca
Scisca Il y a 4 mois
I'm only a single lottery win away from buying a 458, thanks for making the choice between the two cars easy for me!
Don Lee
Don Lee Il y a 4 mois
Guys you can't be seriously that stupid. The 488 is faster than a 458 in EVERY way. Whether it's 0-60, 0-100, 0-200. 1/4 Mile, 1/2 mile.... on track, any corner, any straight. The claimed 0-60 time for the 458 is 3.4s The claimed 0-60 time for the 488 is 3.0s. The best acceleration test with 2ft roll out for the 458 is 3.0s The 488, 2.7s.
TheCarGuys.TV
TheCarGuys.TV Il y a 4 mois
You find that insulting people in your opening statement works for you does it, Donna?
Becker Inal
Becker Inal Il y a 5 mois
458 all the way!
M Performance
M Performance Il y a 5 mois
488 interior, front bumper, and rear looks better. Everything else the 458 beats it.
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